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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://parenting.eharmony.com/2007/09/hr-what-kids-need-most/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few comments from my own experience, maybe to open the other eye.  The war on teenagers and drugs in schools, God forbid the possibility it might be your teen, a parents worst fear.  As much as we try to stop it in schools, I don&#039;t think it will ever happen for it is too powerful of an industry.

Education, awareness, tax dollars, trained drug dogs even coming into the schools are wonderful in my book.  However, no matter how hard we try there will never be an end.  You can try to empower and pump up every parent in a room and try to change them and you will empower half, anger the controlling parent and not even move the parent who is not willing to step up to the plate for they might not be all that worried because at that very moment they might be half baked.

In my brief synopse, it all went down fast.  My daughter in 7th grade started cutting, then the drugs at school and found out later, she drank her dad&#039;s alcohol.  I did not accept this behavior at all, but did not punish her I helped her.  I checked her into a local short term treatment (less than 72 hours), and stood beside her with love, support and I mainly listened.  In that short time, I discovered that since the age of 5, she was being abused by her father.  He was booted immediately, for my other 2 children came out in months to follow.  Surgeon, high profile, not even a slap on the hand.

I became pro-active for a bit to help the schools against drugs.  My daughter would not narc for she was afraid for her sister.  This school even got an award for a drug- free environment.  I don&#039;t mean to sound disrespectful, but what a joke.  I would pull up in my car to pick up my kid, (jr. high) and I would see a group of boys form a circle and deliver a deal.  I even witnessed one boy stick a Coke packet in his cheek.  Trust me, when you are M.A.D.D.  you do research on drugs.

The funny thing was, I would talk to kids and they would tell me that while the officers would perform their locker searches with the trained dogs, for drugs; these kids would be in the classrooms with the drugs on them.  They also hid the drugs across the street in clever places like, uh, a flower pot.  If those homeowners only knew how much money they had hidden on their property.

My daughter cleaned up after a school dance and found a Visine shaped bottle minus the label.  There were some drops left.  She knew what it was.  So we marched back inside and gave it to one of the five police officers at the dance.  He said that he would have it investigated.  Nothing. 

I sort of gave up after my daughter was threatened by a girl from a drug related gang for I finally became worried for her safety.  A few years later, it was interesting to talk to some of these teens who were safely away from the school.  The art teacher would dissappear in a back room only to find a pro-active student who tried to bust her for smoking pot.  The vice principal that I would touch base with, that I actually wondered about, would never bust the pot-heads for that is where he got his supply.  Off the subject, but the counselor who never reported my daughters suicidal ideations, not only creeped my daughter out but promoted 73 jr. high girls to sign a petition/complaint about him looking down their shirts and weird behaviors.  Nothing gets done.  My favorite counselor ended up quitting years later for what goes on behind closed doors.

Twisted people in every profession, I was married to one.  I ended up telling my daughter who had attempted suicide and survived 2 treatment centers, that if my dad did all of that to me I may have done exactly what she had chosen.  For feeling like the bad girl all of those years, she then felt ok.  She so far is doing well, and is loving college.  She takes one day at a time.  My other two are doing great.  Drug free.  

I just feel that their is no sure fire answer here.  I just listen to these kids, give them the facts, and all I have learned to rely on is my personal preference; my silent prayers.  Good Luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few comments from my own experience, maybe to open the other eye.  The war on teenagers and drugs in schools, God forbid the possibility it might be your teen, a parents worst fear.  As much as we try to stop it in schools, I don&#8217;t think it will ever happen for it is too powerful of an industry.</p>
<p>Education, awareness, tax dollars, trained drug dogs even coming into the schools are wonderful in my book.  However, no matter how hard we try there will never be an end.  You can try to empower and pump up every parent in a room and try to change them and you will empower half, anger the controlling parent and not even move the parent who is not willing to step up to the plate for they might not be all that worried because at that very moment they might be half baked.</p>
<p>In my brief synopse, it all went down fast.  My daughter in 7th grade started cutting, then the drugs at school and found out later, she drank her dad&#8217;s alcohol.  I did not accept this behavior at all, but did not punish her I helped her.  I checked her into a local short term treatment (less than 72 hours), and stood beside her with love, support and I mainly listened.  In that short time, I discovered that since the age of 5, she was being abused by her father.  He was booted immediately, for my other 2 children came out in months to follow.  Surgeon, high profile, not even a slap on the hand.</p>
<p>I became pro-active for a bit to help the schools against drugs.  My daughter would not narc for she was afraid for her sister.  This school even got an award for a drug- free environment.  I don&#8217;t mean to sound disrespectful, but what a joke.  I would pull up in my car to pick up my kid, (jr. high) and I would see a group of boys form a circle and deliver a deal.  I even witnessed one boy stick a Coke packet in his cheek.  Trust me, when you are M.A.D.D.  you do research on drugs.</p>
<p>The funny thing was, I would talk to kids and they would tell me that while the officers would perform their locker searches with the trained dogs, for drugs; these kids would be in the classrooms with the drugs on them.  They also hid the drugs across the street in clever places like, uh, a flower pot.  If those homeowners only knew how much money they had hidden on their property.</p>
<p>My daughter cleaned up after a school dance and found a Visine shaped bottle minus the label.  There were some drops left.  She knew what it was.  So we marched back inside and gave it to one of the five police officers at the dance.  He said that he would have it investigated.  Nothing. </p>
<p>I sort of gave up after my daughter was threatened by a girl from a drug related gang for I finally became worried for her safety.  A few years later, it was interesting to talk to some of these teens who were safely away from the school.  The art teacher would dissappear in a back room only to find a pro-active student who tried to bust her for smoking pot.  The vice principal that I would touch base with, that I actually wondered about, would never bust the pot-heads for that is where he got his supply.  Off the subject, but the counselor who never reported my daughters suicidal ideations, not only creeped my daughter out but promoted 73 jr. high girls to sign a petition/complaint about him looking down their shirts and weird behaviors.  Nothing gets done.  My favorite counselor ended up quitting years later for what goes on behind closed doors.</p>
<p>Twisted people in every profession, I was married to one.  I ended up telling my daughter who had attempted suicide and survived 2 treatment centers, that if my dad did all of that to me I may have done exactly what she had chosen.  For feeling like the bad girl all of those years, she then felt ok.  She so far is doing well, and is loving college.  She takes one day at a time.  My other two are doing great.  Drug free.  </p>
<p>I just feel that their is no sure fire answer here.  I just listen to these kids, give them the facts, and all I have learned to rely on is my personal preference; my silent prayers.  Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://parenting.eharmony.com/2007/09/hr-what-kids-need-most/comment-page-1/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this article written for promotional shock-value or to give parenting advice?  I&#039;ve been counseling parents and teaching child development for over 30 years.  The primary problems I see in adults (&quot;grown children&quot;) are related to lack of boundaries from their parents.  If you follow the above &quot;wisdom&quot; you are creating for serious problems for your kids when they grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this article written for promotional shock-value or to give parenting advice?  I&#8217;ve been counseling parents and teaching child development for over 30 years.  The primary problems I see in adults (&#8221;grown children&#8221;) are related to lack of boundaries from their parents.  If you follow the above &#8220;wisdom&#8221; you are creating for serious problems for your kids when they grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen (Steve III)</title>
		<link>http://parenting.eharmony.com/2007/09/hr-what-kids-need-most/comment-page-1/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen (Steve III)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal,
That was wonderful and I want to add something to your message that you may not have pointed out directly. Let&#039;s consider the revelance of dependence in parent/child or any relationships. I agree that a dependence exists. Obviously it exists from the moment we&#039;re born (actually before that) and is maintained in varying degrees until the natural need for autonomy and good, loving parenting skills (whether birth parents, foster parents, or what have you) diminish the need for it. Let me clarify here by saying that I realize that in certain ways we human beings do continue to need each other in many wasy throughout our entire lives. Okay, so on the question of dependence my perspective is that while it may be nearly impossible to prevent my children from trying drugs, and I do consider alcohol a drug, it is entirely possible that through my own experience, strength, and hope that can be conveyed to them, they will know down deep who to turn to and trust when/if the day comes that they encounter their first, second, and maybe last problem(s) that is caused by use and abuse. Of course that comment does not take into consideration the fact that for some the irony of drug abuse is that a diseased and/or addictive state can exist and in such cases the very nature of the disease is such that it&#039;s makes the sufferer actually believe that drinking and using are the answer to problems not the cause. In those instances  the truly best thing to do is take care of yourself and turn your loved one(s) over to the care of others. And I think most parents know others that can and will help in thoughtful, knowledgeable, and skillful ways. The question is can they ask for and accept help and step out of the way to give life a chance.
I&#039;m just fortunate to be able to relate to my children any so many of the difficulties they face because of the difficulties I have faced and worked through. The terms from the seventies were &quot;rap&quot; for rapport and &quot;tight&quot; as in are you tight with. And for me today those terms still signify in my mind the condition of my my childrens relationships with their friends (peers) as well as their relationship with me. Anyone might say it&#039;s absurd to tell them that they can&#039;t do what I have done, but I live a do as I do not as I say life today. I can tell them, in a calm and understanding way what it was like for me, what happened to me when I did what they are contemplating or doing, and how much better off I am today for stopping. The rest is up to them. This in only my opinion though it works for me. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal,<br />
That was wonderful and I want to add something to your message that you may not have pointed out directly. Let&#8217;s consider the revelance of dependence in parent/child or any relationships. I agree that a dependence exists. Obviously it exists from the moment we&#8217;re born (actually before that) and is maintained in varying degrees until the natural need for autonomy and good, loving parenting skills (whether birth parents, foster parents, or what have you) diminish the need for it. Let me clarify here by saying that I realize that in certain ways we human beings do continue to need each other in many wasy throughout our entire lives. Okay, so on the question of dependence my perspective is that while it may be nearly impossible to prevent my children from trying drugs, and I do consider alcohol a drug, it is entirely possible that through my own experience, strength, and hope that can be conveyed to them, they will know down deep who to turn to and trust when/if the day comes that they encounter their first, second, and maybe last problem(s) that is caused by use and abuse. Of course that comment does not take into consideration the fact that for some the irony of drug abuse is that a diseased and/or addictive state can exist and in such cases the very nature of the disease is such that it&#8217;s makes the sufferer actually believe that drinking and using are the answer to problems not the cause. In those instances  the truly best thing to do is take care of yourself and turn your loved one(s) over to the care of others. And I think most parents know others that can and will help in thoughtful, knowledgeable, and skillful ways. The question is can they ask for and accept help and step out of the way to give life a chance.<br />
I&#8217;m just fortunate to be able to relate to my children any so many of the difficulties they face because of the difficulties I have faced and worked through. The terms from the seventies were &#8220;rap&#8221; for rapport and &#8220;tight&#8221; as in are you tight with. And for me today those terms still signify in my mind the condition of my my childrens relationships with their friends (peers) as well as their relationship with me. Anyone might say it&#8217;s absurd to tell them that they can&#8217;t do what I have done, but I live a do as I do not as I say life today. I can tell them, in a calm and understanding way what it was like for me, what happened to me when I did what they are contemplating or doing, and how much better off I am today for stopping. The rest is up to them. This in only my opinion though it works for me. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://parenting.eharmony.com/2007/09/hr-what-kids-need-most/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - what a bunch of liberal psycho-babble!  Yea - I believe in &quot;reverse phychology&quot; and giving kids a &quot;choice&quot; but to an extent.  Texas law is your child is your financial responsibility until he/she is age 18.  Until they are 18 - if they break a law you as the parent have to pay for the damages.  I am not going to give my kid the free rein to choose his own destruction.  It&#039;s just that simple!  He or she will do as I ask of them and show me the respect I deserve as their parent.  That is what I am teaching my children.  No, they don&#039;t always like it but they know if they want ANYTHING from me they will do as I ask of them or tell them to do.  I don&#039;t mean this is my right to abuse my &quot;right&quot; to be their parent - but I certainly won&#039;t allow them to do as they wish.  I&#039;m not going to let them ruin their futures as becoming productive adults because they want to dabble at drugs and alcohol.  They have to work for their freedom with me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; what a bunch of liberal psycho-babble!  Yea &#8211; I believe in &#8220;reverse phychology&#8221; and giving kids a &#8220;choice&#8221; but to an extent.  Texas law is your child is your financial responsibility until he/she is age 18.  Until they are 18 &#8211; if they break a law you as the parent have to pay for the damages.  I am not going to give my kid the free rein to choose his own destruction.  It&#8217;s just that simple!  He or she will do as I ask of them and show me the respect I deserve as their parent.  That is what I am teaching my children.  No, they don&#8217;t always like it but they know if they want ANYTHING from me they will do as I ask of them or tell them to do.  I don&#8217;t mean this is my right to abuse my &#8220;right&#8221; to be their parent &#8211; but I certainly won&#8217;t allow them to do as they wish.  I&#8217;m not going to let them ruin their futures as becoming productive adults because they want to dabble at drugs and alcohol.  They have to work for their freedom with me!</p>
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